Trump is anti-American and seems to hate this country: How else can his behavior be explained? The tariffs, the austerity, the threat of a default, along with the corruption and grift— it feels like we're at the beginning stage of something that could go very, very bad. Meanwhile, Trump may not have the cards himself on Ukraine. Europe and the rest of the West have the economic might to continue to back Ukraine. And if that coalition maintains a united front, it would have the power to reject a 'peace' deal imposed by the US and Russia.
James Carville and Michael Weiss join Tim Miller.
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Finally found the time to listen to the full podcast. Fantastic!! Love Carville’s blunt analysis. Weiss also was clear and blunt. Keep it up!!!!
Michael Weiss is absolutely plugged in and brilliant. Skip the Carville old politics rant and listen to the Weiss piece and then follow Michael wherever can.
Carville is too out of touch to understand what's happening to the country, compared to those of those of us who've been terminally online since the dawn of the internet. We've been in these spaces and we've known these types for a while. The destruction is happening at speed -- the pain is already being felt. The response must be IMMEDIATE.
The very LAST thing the Secty of Ag should be telling people to do is to get a backyard flock of chickens. Hello, highly pathogenic avian influenza pandemic? If you kept them in an enclosure, that could work, but wandering around in the open where wild birds fly around? Bad idea. The one guy in the U.S. who died from this flu contracted it from his backyard flock. In other countries, like in SE Asia and Egypt, the fatality rate among people who caught it from birds is about 50%. Fortunately, the dairy cows and dairy workers have had mild disease due to the particular mutations that occurred in order for the virus to infect bovine mammary cells, but really, folks, stay away from birds. Just look at the little tweeties in your area and don't handle any.
I've been saying from the beginning of the first Trump term that he has a fundamental dislike, even disdain, for America and most of its citizens. I haven't run the numbers and there's a lot of overlap but think of the groups and individuals which belong to those groups or have their characteristics which Trump has insulted and who is left?:
Democrats
Liberals and progressives
African Americans who are not Republicans
People with physical or other disabiltities
Wounded or captured, even all veterans
government workers
Spanish speaking citizens
Jews who are not Republicans
Noncaucasian immigrants
Women in general
Any Republican who is not totally worshipful of him (standard: if you're not wholly with me you're against me)
Judges who rule against him
How many people does that leave?
He clearly prefers wealthy, white Christian males above all else - not so subtly implying that everyone else is inferior.
The US is the wealthiest and most powerful nation on earth yet the MAGA premise is that it's weak and not wealthy - in fact it's a victim of everyone else, hasn't protected itself or led others or for some reason for 200 years has not had someone like Trump leading it - in fact voted for Presidents not like him - in fact showed no intelligence in all of its past votes and decisiions.
And then there's something more personal. Why has he twice married foreigners - are there no Americans good enough for him? And then there's his most recent reliance of white male ex-South African (Afrikaaners?) to keep close to him - Elon Musk, and the Peter Thiele product -JD Vance. Both happy to destroy the government American citizens have constructed and fought to maintain for hundreds of years.
Have we heard Trump brag about how great and wonderful America is at nearly the same rate that he says he'll make it great again (clearly he thinks it is not great now)
And he wants to grant asylum to white South Africans!
Re bird flu and backyard chickens: https://youtu.be/7vKoRFIO3qI?si=LYGQNGeV_FWfH04Q
I suspect there are a lot of Charlie Sykes fans here, who read and post on the Bulwark. For an excellent counterpoint to Carville's roll over and play possum prescription for the dems, I would recommend checking out Charlie's very own new podcast. The one from Monday with Susan Glasser. It's extremely worthwhile, but we'd expect nothing less from Charlie. Thumbnail bullet point: now is the hour to save our democracy. And time to do so is not infinite. Dem pols, pundits, strategists have it wrong- the resistance in Trump 1.0 was not a failure. It achieved great returns in the midterms, as well as 2020. Many good dems elected, and best of all, sent Donald Trump packing. These were the fruits of the same kinds of efforts we need now, even more desperately.
This moment is exactly the wrong time to lay back and allow the high ups, and past experts, to lead us to put on the brakes. What we are confronting now is NOTHING LIKE any thing those folks ever had to do battle with, on their ways to getting people elected, and in their roles as party gurus. Let us please be honest with ourselves: The Party failed spectacularly recently, as we know. It stands to reason new answers, energy and strategy is certainly due. But NOT simply on tactics for how to win the next election. What's at stake here is our democracy, our institutions, our way of life and our society, literally. I'm sorry, but partisan politics is not the highest concern we have as a nation, in this moment. Sorry. The concern is frankly existential.
No one anticipated the need to act so quickly. But in 5 weeks, look at what they've accomplished. In another several weeks, think of what more will have met with a fatal encounter with Elon's buzzsaw. Susan lived in Russia while its infant democracy was smothered in its cradle by our good friend Putin. She lived through this, and her views on how this happened are very instructive. And Charlie's interview with her is simply the best. If you have access to it, please give it a listen. Counterpoint is the lifeblood of positive progress.
But is public messaging the right arena for the current fight against DOGE? Or is it the courts? A team of state AGs is challenging Elon in court - and having some success. At this point, maybe the best thing the politicians can do is root for the lawyers.
I have friends who have been doing the backyard chicken thing for years. Before you get chickens, you need a plan to keep them from falling prey to predators, especially foxes. Otherwise, don't bother.
It's almost as if Trump is on the side of the Russians. Who does this to an ally in the middle of a hot war? It's like poking a stick in their eyes.
***The US stopped providing the intelligence that’s helped Ukraine target Russian forces in Moscow’s three-year war as President Donald Trump’s administration escalates a standoff with Kyiv.
The halt covers all the intelligence except for what Ukraine needs to protect its forces, according to a US official familiar with the decision, who spoke under the condition of anonymity.
US National Security Adviser Mike Waltz signaled that intelligence-sharing was among the items on the table after Trump suspended military assistance to Ukraine this week, even as he expressed optimism that negotiators could revive a natural-resources deal the White House sees as crucial to resolving the war.
“We have taken a step back and are pausing and reviewing all aspects of this relationship,” Waltz told reporters in Washington.
Trump reminds me of a 1970s leftist-pacifist: He sees "war" as the enemy and seeks "peace", while waving away questions of who is the aggressor and who is the victim.
Yes, what's being done now to Ukraine, to force it to accept our ideas of terms for peace: coercion plus open sabotage. We are behaving like thugs.
Nice country you've got there. Would be a pity if something happened to it...
The lack of intelligence gathering is absolutely shocking! Have these people ever studied Russia? Do they have a clue?
I do think Article Five is dead. Anyone who trusts us is a fool.
We are shits when it comes to Ukraine. We have gone to Russia.
Trump does want capitulation.
Fantastic discussion. Europe is stepping up!
Michael Weiss continues to be one of my favorite commentators on foreign policy, with the other two being Ian Bremmer and Fareed Zakaria.
“Rise to the moment”—yes! So how to get Schumer to pass the damn torch . . . not tomorrow! Asap!
WHOOPIE CUSHIONS
An excellent episode. Carville is always worth a listen. Rope a dope sounds like a plan if we can pull it off. Where is our Ali?? Anyone seriously interested in foreign affairs needs to pay attention to Michael Weiss.
Michael Weiss, great. Carville, WTF?
Alright, but the Democrats MUST have viable solutions to problems that would themselves provide the defense from Republican attack. Such as promoting molten-salt fast breeder reactors, such as investing in Argonne National Laboratory designing a baseload scale Integral Fast Reactor, the EBR II, as the solution to a) our energy needs forever forward and (b) power plant CO2 emissions. A standard design would end the regulatory issues caused by pressurized reactors and the waste problems of non-breeders. This isn't esoteric because energy is core to an industrial society and economy and global warming is an existential threat.
Then there's the FACT that our privatized health care system's costs are out of control and the answer is to socialize it:
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries/#GDP%20per%20capita%20and%20health%20consumption%20spending%20per%20capita,%202022%20(U.S.%20dollars,%20PPP%20adjusted)
The GOP has NO point in privatizing healthcare further as it already costs people, including the stupid GOP voters, more for a lower life expectancy! Understand that Nixon suggested this.
Also, they need to keep hammering that Trump and the entire GOP are traitors, that they have broken their oath to defend the constitution in their allowing the executive powers that it reserves for the legislature, the executive simply enforces the law and has no authority to ignore or change it.
I dont understand why we are still talking about elections.
Some of us are not yet ready to surrender.
I didn't say anything about surrendering...odd that that's where you took this comment. I am just saying we MUST think outside the box. There might not be any FAIR elections on the horizon, so what's plan B?
The episodes with Michael Weiss are always great.
I agree with Weiss on almost everything. I also think Zeliniski is a very savvy leader and Ukraine couldn’t have been luckier to have had him in place when all this went down three (4) years ago. Trump is not smart enough to know the subtlety of the offer given is not an apology and not a capitulation. It is absolutely a mature return to the table by the adult in the room with a counter offer to buy everyone time just like he suggested. I worry as, JVL and Bill Crystal have brought up, what the re-invigoration of the military industrial complex of Europe and potentially Asia will lead to nuclear proliferation. Once Pandora’s box is reopened, reclosing it by regaining trust will be next to impossible and take decades just as it did before. I always appreciate Mr Weiss incite into the reality of how we are seen and likely to be reacted to by the world. Our press is generally abysmal at understanding other’s perspectives.
Listened to 2 minutes of Carville, couldn'ttake any moreofthat, so skipped straight to Michael Weiss -- listened to every word, so deeply informative; thank you, Michael.
Agree with Karen. Michael is terrific. Right up there with Eliot Cohen, Eric Edelman and Anne Applebaum. What a panel that would be!
Probably ok
Bird Flu has a vaccine, however RFK, JR is keeping another pandemic secret. The President spoke to Billionaires tonight Nothing on how we will over come inflation. He has a boy with brain cancer after firing the Dept that studies it. NIH, FDA, CDC etc
James Carville is brilliant at his analysis. He's usually right . He just left out Trump and ELON are sociopaths as well. With followers.
You’re talking about Trump having syphilis; here is a 2017 article about that. https://newrepublic.com/article/140702/medical-theory-donald-trumps-bizarre-behavior
I just watched Carville’s clip on trump’s syphilis and it’s the first time I’ve laughed at politics since last year. “I’m not a medical doctor and I’m not saying I know, I’m just asking questions.” A perfect spoof of the crazies.
What's going to happen with Musk and Starling? There must be other options
I hate the Ag sec too!! WTF??
Not only would "a chicken in every backyard" policy increase the price of chickens, I presume it would also bring the potential for bird flu to backyards across the land. Which might not seem like such a great idea unless your actual goal is killing off a bunch of us retirees to give the DOGE boys a big win. Then again, they might need to figure out a way to keep post-menopausal Grandma alive long enough to provide day care for their kids.
Masturbate and Cyber Truck goes.....hand in hand?
Minerals.
Count me in the carville camp. The MAGA GOP *needs* a foil. Don’t give them a lame public cringe-show to unite against and scapegoat. Lay low and choose shots while making it as hard as possible to govern.
Concur on taking a step back and simply having a long term plan. Too many times the Dems patch things up and those outside of politics don’t see/feel the reality. It’s time for the public to get a Reality Check and realize that their sources of information are not all that great.
I’ll explain what he’s doing—he’s mentally ill.
My guess is that Trump wants to crash the economy and particularly the stock market so he can "buy the dip".
That would be reminiscent of how the Soviet nomenklatura bought up Russian assets on the cheap and became oligarchs. But they had a big advantage - most Soviet citizens did not understand the concept of owning shares in a company. There could be a lot of Americans planning to buy the dip.
This interview with James Carville made me laugh out loud and brought me out of a dark place. Thank you!
Michael Weiss is just SO good. Great discussion.
Republicans used to say to their opposition in the U.S. “love it or leave it”. Well we didn’t. So they have gotten very angry. And of course they now hate the U.S. because we are still here. So now they look to Putin for tactics for getting rid of us, which means they have to follow Putin’s economic plan. Give everything to the strongman leader & his oligarchs, and pay all the workers minimum poverty wages.
Also people would do well to pay attention to where their food comes from, who makes it and how. Pretty gross and outrageous. I'm not an egg person but know plenty of chicken people... urban and country. This BS of ridiculing any attempt at growing one's own food is one of life's annoying mysteries. We missed a big opportunity in COVID to bring back the victory garden and not eat meat. Blue collar workers have every right to still be pissed about what they went through. People are acting like eggs are required food. Just don't eat them if they cost too much. Problem solved.
Also, Michael Weiss' dog has a great smile.
Great interview with Michael Weiss. Thanks for this. Watching it during the "presidential address", with my TV turned to BBCA, muted, since they are spying on our TV viewing.
2 days in a row now this podcast has been an unpleasant listening experience. I may need a sabbatical. Also, can we let James live his best 80s life and move on.
Wow! Michael Weiss is an excellent interview. His knowledge is so broad and deep. Please have him back.
He makes dense, convoluted information accessible and is the best English-language source (that I know of, anyway) for information on Ukraine and Russia.
McConnell had the Senate majority, we do not. That simple fact that they have a trifecta AND the courts is a huge difference. Now with the latter they've installed people with the only requirement was loyalty to the a-hole chief. Add to this that they are frickin corrupt and it not impossible but it is very daunting. I agree there is some planning that's been going on in the background but the natives are getting restless.
The natives need to cool their jets.
I'm in some FB groups for keeping chickens and the memes about getting chickens to "save money on eggs" is epic. Many people post pictures of their first egg and are like, look my first egg! $1,000. They're farm animals! Not vending machines. They need care and feeding and housing.
Instead of calling it Elon Musk DOGE, how about calling it DOGESHIT.
Mr. Carville, no disrespect, I enjoy your chats with Tim, and you seem like a fun guy and I know your heart is in the right place... but... are you nuts? The dems have no plan. That was clear since 2016. They do not learn. They do not adjust. They do not even know how to be evil properly. They are bad strategists and are quite literally contributors to Trump. If you think Hakeem is gunna save us then... yikes. Also, the idea that they are just tactically waiting... I mean, they could have just won the election right? There are some really important things to push against right now... what in the hell are they waiting for then? Ive been saying this forever, but they WANT this. Its quite obvious. Money and power. Simple as that. Bernie has quite literally laid out the path for them since the clinton era, and they ignore it. They have the answer if they wanted it. Problem is they dont. We need people that care and will push against the corruption of BOTH parties. Follow the Bern and AOC. We all need a legit politician for once that isnt owned. Ive said this 1000 times though, Im screaming into the void at this point. RIP America.
Fantastic piece ,I’ve never seen Carville so sharp! He is really on fire right now and to me Ukraine is the centerpiece of it all what a great piece 5 stars!
Trump want's to punk everybody who thinks he's a low life monster of a human being which is pretty much anybody who's in touch with reality
Years ago, in Manhattan, I was a Muppet maker in the Muppets workshop on the upper east side. The Muppet’s building was catty-corner to the Russian Embassy. The FBI or the CIA, I’m not sure which, rented a floor of the building to keep an eye on these neighbors, it was assumed. A fellow Muppet maker put a perfectly sized piece of round paper over the button to their floor labeled “Spy’s-R-Us”. I wish I could type the backward R from the famous Toy’s . . . logo.
We used to eat lunch on the roof and could see the antics going on in front of the Russian Embassy. Elvis’s, ‘Ain’t Nothin But A Bomb Dog’, became our anthem when we saw a dog wearing a protective vest holding a camera going alone into the building one day. Thankfully, the dog came back out in one piece.
Enjoyed the anecdote. Alas today we're not sending spies into Russian embassies, and they don't need to try furtive tricks anymore either because the Russian embassy is now at 1600 Pensylvania Avenue.
Would something like Israel’s Iron Dome be feasible for Ukraine? ( realize that it’s for air attacks, not land attacks.)
Ukraine's current air defenses seem to be taking down 85% of incoming Russian attacks. That's not as effective as Israel's, but Ukraine has a lot more territory to defend.
Tim - I was drawn to your podcast by your wry sense of humor - I’m staying on as a listener because of your great insights. I’m proud to support The Bulwark! Thanks to you and the Bulwark team for all the hard work.
I have listened to many commentators on the Ukraine/Russia war, Michael Weiss is my hands down favorite. Have him on more please
Love whenever you have Michael Weiss on!
I don't know if Trump has syphilis or something else, but I think his behavior is worthy of inquiry/investigation. If any of us had a loved one who acted this out of character for his given role - father, grandfather, businessman, etc. - I think we'd be concerned. Also-- asking this question over and over and over again will put him on the defensive. "I'm not a puppet, you're a puppet!" And perhaps enough discussion, investigation ... "people are saying" - might get a few republications to join in the "worry", as in "I'm not against the president, but I am worried about his behavior...is he okay?"
Fortunately, no one lives in an apartment, so it's easy for everyone to get a chicken or two.
Everyone living in an apartment just needs to move into a single-family house in a neighborhood that allows chickens. Problem solved!
Add another bedroom. :)
Still listening to the ep but I'm making the Marge Simpson frowning concern sound through this whole argument for a "tactical pause"
https://www.wired.com/story/notpetya-cyberattack-ukraine-russia-code-crashed-the-world/
Trump will dismiss that as part of the Russia-Russia-Russia hoax!
Excellent podcast, both Carville and Weiss provided detailed analysis and potential outcomes. I hope Carville is right and this is the beginning of the end for Trump. Not sure I agree with the medical assessment since I think his addiction to McDonalds is at least as likely if not more so than tertiary syphilis to be what takes him out. I think the rest of us in this country need to follow the lead of the Ukrainians and accept what has happened and act accordingly. We will not be able to go back with this administration, and our focus should be mitigating the damage and figuring out how to repair our institutions, understanding that it won't be quick or easy. It's been so fast and all encompassing. Six weeks to shred the most powerful country that has ever existed.
the suggestion that Zelenskyy would accept a place to run to now is an ignominious insult. He didn't need a ride at the beginning and he doesn't want it now either.
The only silver lining to all this bs is that we’ll get to hear more from Weiss.
Best.👏 Bulwark.👏Guest.👏
I usually listen to the podcast on iTunes, but seeing this video makes me wonder how many sparkly hats I've been missing.
Michael Weiss is the man. His analysis of the Walesa letter makes me want to read it again.
Great show - thank you. Not sure what to feel any more - want the country to survive, but find myself cheering when bad things are happening.
Tim, I'm with you. I don't see much other option besides a total collapse of the country at this rate, unless a miracle happens. I would love to see you guys do a video, article, or series on possible scenarios for what a total collapse of the country might actually look like. You know, get some historians on, etc. So far journalists are not going that far ahead, but I would love a picture of what we could potentially expect our lives to look like in the worst case scenario. For instance, is there any reason an existing dictator, Putin or Xi, for example, wouldn't just come in to take over the US?
Is a damn good thing that the rajun Cajun wasn’t around when the German stormtroopers were taking over in he world!!! Yeah let’s just fucking sit back and play rope-a-dope until it’s too fucking late
BULLSHIT!
Keep in mind Trump talks in projection, in the campaign he constantly said (shouted) “ the Democrats hate our country, if you vote Democrat you will not have a country left”. Well he was telling us what he was going to do.
There’s a much more important reason the agriculture secretary’s idea that thousands of people should keep chickens in their backyards is dumb. The reason we have an egg shortage is because of a deadly virus that spreads from asymptomatic, wild birds to poultry. The only people who have caught this virus are people who have close contact with chickens, who contract it from wild birds. I can’t really think of a better way for the virus to adapt to spread in humans than by providing it with thousands more potential vulnerable human contacts. Also, I don’t think people are gonna be super excited to deal with the rather gruesome deaths of their backyard chickens from this particular virus. Google it. What this virus does to chickens it’s not pretty. So what the agriculture secretary is recommending is not just funny, or silly, but deeply irresponsible.
Stupid
The man in Louisiana who died of bird flu kept yard chickens.
Oh my goodness. I have eliminated eggs, chicken and beef from my diet. It's not easy
I did it years ago. Do not miss it. Always hated eggs anyway.
Great point. I feed about a dozen wild ducks in my yard. They give me plenty of space when I lay out the feed, but I do think about the risk of bird flu.
Justin, I watched a webinar last week about the avian flu with UC Davis vet school virologists and their recommendation for dealing with wild birds is to wear a mask and wash your hands after filling any feeders. Since they are ducks, I am guessing you are just tossing the food on the ground, rather than handling a feeder, so you're probably safer.
Tim is correct: there is no point in engaging with a budget process in which the president has seized the power of the purse for himself. What would be the point of dickering over what's in the purse ?
If Congress refuses to add money to the purse, it will not be available for the President to spend. Trump can seize the purse, but he can't add money to it.
There is a lot of nonsense and confusion about "the power of the purse." The phrase is not in the Constitution. The relevant clause of Article I, Section 9, says money cannot be spent unless it has been appropriated by Congress. So far, Trump has not disputed that. He has only claimed Congress cannot force him to spend money - and the Constitution itself does not say otherwise.
I gotta say, James Carville gets big points for coding as rural southern and hitting some good points here and there, and is generally one of the few guys who presents Democrats as actually having sack, but he is super wrong here.
Play dead?
What a dumb idea.
The only reason anybody thinks anything on their side is 'cause of the big, fat propaganda machine. It doesn't matter how bad things'll get--that propaganda machine will spin up and most of their folks by a lot will be spinning on their noggins about the how the devastation of the economy "isn't that bad" and how "it's only temporary... Better days ahead!!!!"
If you aren't taking up space, their machine will, and it will ALWAYS dull the effects of their dog-shit governance on the actual populace. The Democrats should be screaming from the rooftops about where this leads so that WHEN it happens they can scream, "SEE? These people fucking SUCK. Fucking dog-shit garbage bad pieces of shit. They're so bad it's laughable."
Roll over and play dead is a stupid-as-hell idea in all circumstances. Scream, yell, etc. And jesus, talk about how "The propaganda machine is manipulating you!!!! They want YOU to fail because if YOU fail, THEY WIN. THEY WANT TO WIN. THEY WANT YOU TO FAIL BECAUSE IF YOU FAIL, THEY WIN. STOP BUYING INTO IT."
The propaganda machine, the propaganda machine, the propaganda machine. That is the only thing that matters, and without it, Trump is literally nothing. If you aren't messaging about that, you're fucking retarded. Leave Trump alone--nobody cares. Go after Jesse Waters, go after Fox, go after Breitbart, go after social media. Talk about all of it, talk about what they do. "They're manipulating you." Those are your words, use'em.
For God's sake, Carville talking about using a Japanese war strategy that they did damage with but ultimately lost with is just peak fucking Democrat.
Shut up Carville.
These people will fuck it up. You can maximize damage by talking about it, screaming, yelling, take no prisoners, or you can let them minimize it by saying nothing. Wake up.
Edit: Wanted to add: not a single fucking Democrat should be at this speech tonight. You stage a no-show, the attention gets taken OFF of Donald Trump and ONTO Democrats, which is exactly what we want (once we have our messaging straightened out, which I'm working on...). But point being, get the fucking limelight off Donald Trump. He propagandizes people to shit and THEY LISTEN TO HIM. You need to start being the biggest man in the room. To do that, you need to throw maximal little baby hissy fits. Men break down and have tantrums when things actually matter and don't go their way. BE THE MAN!!!!!!!!
Psychologically normal people struggle to understand malignant narcissists like Trump because they are so aberrant. We don't want to see what's really there.
100%. Donald Trump should be treated as a static object, not a man. He's an obstacle to be demolished, not a person to be understood.
Democrats need to stop listening to a guy who last ran a winning campaign in 1992. The world has changed.
You think Democrats listen to Carville? They should, but they don't. If they did, they would not have tried to run Biden for a second term.
What a spectacular double episode...on so many fronts.
Tim... the way you curated the respective genius of these two guests is truly remarkable...
Couple of observations:
Carville is Carville. Pure and honest. No filter; in a good way. His speculation that Trump actually hates America is an interesting and scary notion. To some degree this implies all this recent destruction is direct and purposeful. I'm not sure it just isn't plain old stupidity, blunder and incompetence from someone who never read a book and whose "North Stars" are MAGATS, Techno-libertairian propagandists and Techno-determinist Silicon Valley billionaires that are using him as a vassal
Weiss is one of the most thoughtful, knowledgeable and articulate people I've ever heard. Amazing. Having had a German mom (my Dad met and married her while stationed in Frankfurt after the war), and having lived in Europe for 5 years during high school (Dad was a 3M executive transferred in the early 70's overseas), my sorrow for how our country is treating Europe is deep and profound. Hard to believe this is also not just MAGA stupidity and ignorance.
At Mardi Gras if you see young women with pounds and pounds of beads around their necks, you may begin to understand the value of the beads by thinking about the transactions through which they acquired those beads
I think trump & co having seen the intelligence are afraid now that Putin is going to be deposed over Ukraine if things continue on ... And to them that would be a disaster. And that's the real motivation in all this...
In Putin, bozo Trump may once again be betting on the wrong horse.
I don’t want to raise chickens at my house 🐓
I just want to eat eggs 🥚
Please confirm- wasn’t raising chickens as a solution by Agriculture person? That won’t bring the bird flu / human infection sooner ?
NEVER kiss a chicken please
I have no idea what the Ag person is...not sure she ever saw a chicken up close. The way she talked, it was as if the chicken is an egg machine. Push a button and an egg comes out. That a chicken is a live thing that eats and poops and gets sick seemed to escape her.
Always fun to have Carville on, especially for Mardi Gras.
And very insightful conversation with Michael Weiss. Hope he comes back. 👍
The backyard chicken thing is even more ridiculous than that…backyard chickens also get bird flu! And the humans tending them will spread it around.
I disagree with Carville. One reason the Democratic brand is hurting is because Democrat politicians are not mounting a unified campaign to counter Trump’s destruction of our government.
They should be having daily press conferences in front of governmental agencies with people who have been fired coming from around the country, telling stories of the work they did and how their job loss will affect the public.
Dem politicians should be leading demonstrations and walking out of committee meetings. They should be holding town meetings in Republican districts where Republicans are refusing to meet the public.
In other words, Demicratic leaders should be making a vocal, daily, creative case for what our government does for us, and for democracy. Is this too much to ask????
No, it's not too much to ask. Democrats are very weak. Not a single one of them should be at the speech tonight. His power is his command of attention. You stage a Democrat no-show, the attention is on them. "Democrats didn't show up? Why didn't they show up?"
From the right you get, "What a bunch of disrespectful little whiners."
From the middle/uninformed you get: "That's weird. I wonder why they didn't show up?"
Suddenly the mic is in Democrats' hand.
Another opportunity., squandered.
Here's a hint, Democrats: every time DT is supposed to have a big moment, you win by stealing his attention. Stop being such faggot little pussies and stand up and fight.
Thanks Gavin! I am with you
Someone should bring a juggler with eggs and chainsaws 🤣🤣🤣
There are many many ways - some people will like the egg thing - room for all - to respond - there are many ways to connect with people
The green/gold/purple NOLA love was AWESOME! Tim, I love your tiara!
Trump and Vance "blew it up" quite intentionally, all for an audience of one.
Excellent pod.
And, btw, chickens in a backyard are somehow immune from bird flu?
This nonsense about Zelenskyy showing disrespect because he didn’t wear a suit…doesn’t Elon roam around and actually run meetings from the Oval looking like someone dressed to play video games in his parents basement…..until Vance travels to Ukraine he should keep his mouth shut and sit there like little Marco…
Zelenskyy has explained his attire many, many times, and even MTG's boyfriend should know why he doesn't wear a suit. And yup, Musk not only doesn't wear a suit but also does wear a baseball cap in the Oval. Guess that doesn't matter though.
DT likes to compare himself to Al Capone - who died insane of tertiary syphilis - so maybe Carville is on to something.
JD Vance will be forever infamous because his combination of servility and condescension cannot be matched - he is an abomination
Feed is the biggest input cost for chickens. My chickens make eggs that cost 8 dollars a dozen where I live. I can't sell them for more than 5.
My dog would definitely eat a chicken in my backyard
Chickens in your apartment. 🇨🇦
Or the white house or Mara Lago. Give Melonia something to do.
Bird flu for all!
We came down to Carnival from Canada last year, spent our wad on restos (Chochon in particular was f@#$in dope) went to Orpheus, Rex and Zulu, had a blast, got sauced up in the Quarter, ate fried chicken and did our own pub crawl. We had to cancel our annual two weeks down south this year 'cause of the shitshow. What the hell, we could get scooped up by ICE like that German lady.
Get your asses in gear folks we were planning on heading back to New Orleans in '27!
New nickname Trump the Chump
How about a strategic reserve of tulips?
Good one. IYKYK.
YES PLEASE
Wonderful Tim. So glad I listened in.
Depending on Americans to realize the truth and reality is what got us here. Biden was not strong at messaging and didn’t broadcast his good policies everywhere, so people don’t know. This strategy is essentially the same theory, people will just know it when they live it. Problem is, propaganda isn’t waiting to see how it pans out, so they’ll fill that space if Dems won’t with more propaganda and excuses. Tim is right, Dems will revolt if there isn’t a fighting message out. I’m worried that Dems will miss another opportunity to fight tonight by pretending the SOTU is during normal times or not going, but have no follow up message to the people and R’s will just fill the seats so regular joes don’t even know what’s going on.
Hatred of America is the only thing Carville can think of to explain Trump’s actions?
Trump is a wannabe dictator. An economic collapse would give Dipshit Donny a great excuse to try to seize power.
Trump wanting to be a dictator is hating America. Purposefully collapsing the economy is hating America.
You are right. I should have made my point like this:
Carville is right to say Trump hates America. I would add that because Trump is a wannabe dictator he might be trying to intentionally cause an economic crisis to create an excuse for him to seize power.
Am I the only one who legit believes that Trump's lizard brain thinks he is making a bid for the Nobel Peace Prize? Rubio said as much. Trump's ass is chapped because Obama received the award.
I hope the Nobel committee gives the award to Zelensky.
You are not the only one.
I agree. This fascist Putin ally thinks he is a man of peace. I think Blackrock just screwed up his desired Granada “Operation Urgent Fury” moment in Panama today by purchasing ports. He must be bummed. I guess Greenland will be his “bone spurs healed” moment. What a he-man!
MAGA swallowed Soviet Communism without gagging.
Are they Communist Party members?
Have they ever received payments from Russians?
Were they born in a communist country?
Do they wear a Red Communist campaign button?
Do they have Russian Z flags or slogans?
It's simple: MAGA is a Trump cult. Trump loves Russia, so MAGA cultists love Russia too.
But today's MAGA Republicans are amazingly similar to the pro-Soviet American leftists of the 1970s: They hate America and its Constitution, they take marching orders from Moscow (whether wittingly or not), and they are willing to use violence and terrorism if they think it will promote their cause.
That is today, then it was propaganda to keep the Vietnam war going. If against Vietnam draft ,were a Red Commie getting drafted. Then returning Vets against the war were also labeled commies.
Trump is siding with all communist governments, he hates Americans? We insult and belittle the Commie Dictatorship it’s Treason.
As a malignant narcissist, the second presidential term is a revenge tour for his loss in 2020. He is going to make American suffer for rejecting him.
THAT’S what I think this term is about. As evidenced by him bringing up the Russian collusion and Hunter laptop in a meeting about Russian invasion.
Can someone explain the motive for switching to the Russians for these ghouls? Like they are acting like they’re paid by Russians… It’s so sad and scary and how can any American want this. What were our intelligence services doing they seem pretty useless if they couldn’t uncover our government officials being on the take with Russia. I have no other explanation for Vance particularly and Trump/Musk
Trump detests the rules-based international order. He hates rules, he hates order, and he hates alliances. He wants to replace the post-WW2 order with an order where the strong impose their will on the weak - where he, Putin, and Xi can run the world like crime bosses, each with his own territory. To accomplish that, he needs to break the shackles of the Constitution and NATO.
Democrats need to walk and chew gum at the same time. They need to be out in front of the American people talking to American people as often as possible in every format. This is the attention economy, Mr. Carville. Get with the times.
Imagine: Trump has a pre-existing agreement with Putin to jointly exploit rare earth mineral deposits in Russia and Ukraine, he would be compelled to choose a side in the conflict if he cannot secure a similar agreement with Ukraine.
Greenland and Canada also possesses significant rare earth mineral reserves, and China, the current dominant supplier, restricts access and relies heavily on the Panama Canal.
Is there a single man on planet earth that needs rare earth minerals more than Elon Musk? SpaceX, Tesla, and Grok can't continue without scandium, neodymium, and cerium.
Is this a conspiracy theory or the most logical solution to america's new foreign policy, aka the world's greatest grift?
Also, here's the moment Zelensky gets irritated with trump's lack of concern about Ukrainian security.
https://youtu.be/ajxSWocbye8?si=3Gd1ddtr4K-E9FyB&t=1203
Trump talks and acts like it is all his money. Not the taxpayers’. His ego not Congress sets the rules. His massive sub-50% mandate (??) when 60% of GDP in voting counties went to Harris. Curious how the majority of tax dollars voted?! Delusional narcissist who sees it all as his own pile of gold to play with as his whims dictate. He decides on all tariffs himself and the fate of Ukraine with other peoples money. Insane world.
Okay Carville is the fucking best haha We should all survive the Trumpocalpyse is Mardi Gras outfits lol
His "lie back and take it" advice is actually the fucking worst
That’s not what he said. Not even close.
I mean I think he's just saying they are digging their own grave, I don't think saying strategic pause doesn't make any sense. He said himself when budget vote comes up that's the moment to attack, literally a couple weeks from now.
A chicken in every backyard instead of the pot!
Lol! "First stated by Henry IV of France as, "I want there to be no peasant in my realm so poor that he will not have a chicken in his pot every Sunday," and later associated with Herbert Hoover's 1928 campaign as part of an ad placed by a local committee...The phrase is often attributed to Hoover, although he never made such a statement." (Wiktionary.org)
This reminds me of the Rule of St Benedict. Benedict prohibited his monks from eating "the flesh of quadrupeds," which was the food of the rich. But he allowed his monks to eat poultry, the meat of the common people.
Back yard chickens can get avian flu, too. I think worrying about the price of live chicks is beside the point.
Your first flock of backyard chickens is unlikely to live long enough to get avian flu. If you don't know what you're doing, the fox will get them first.
Or maybe a hawk.
So I disagree with the statement that “Trump will collapse”. I think his approval ratings will collapse, the economy will collapse and the Republic could collapse. Trump will remain defiant and will double down as things get worse. His supporters will rally to his side. I really fear that the only way this ends is with either detention and concentration camps or with much of MAGA stood against a wall and executed quickly after “Peoples trials”. Neither is a good outcome and will precipitate worse things in the future.
Collapse as in face plant would be good.
I guess I should clarify that I am exempting medical collapse from my argument 🤣🤣🤣
Trump does hate America. I’d like to see some little Ukrainian flags or lapels. I’d like to hear some booing and being demonstrative.
Some did that and it came off awful. It looked low class, like when MTG and Boebert heckled Biden. Tacky. It would have been better if Dems just didn’t attend.
Only Miller and Carville can celebrate Mardi Gras while the world is collapsing, and I am here for it. Laissez les bons temps roller!
Democrats should show up with their backs to Trump.
I saw someone suggest that every time Trump tells a lie a democrat should stand up and shout "You lie!" and walk out. Take the spotlight away from him. It would be nice retribution for the disrespect to President Obama.
It is time for Republicans in Congress to wake up before Trump/Vance/Musk do generational damage to the USA
Okay the headress is viral ready!